Wednesday, January 17, 2007

Dispatches programme

A few thoughts came to mind whilst watching the latest Dispatches programme:

1) What were Abu Usama And Faiz thinking when making the statements they did? What they said was devoid of any understanding of the context of the time and place we are living in. And the more i think about it, the more i'm sure that brothers such as these have little or no interaction with non-Muslims because its impossible to hold such views and express them so boldly in the UK in 2007 if you're meeting non-Muslims regularly. They need to move on from describing the UK/Western populace as gays, controlled by Jews, etc.

2) What is the obsession with this term kaafir (sing.)/kufaar(pl.)? All it translates to is non-Muslim/disbeliever. If my manager is not a Muslim (which he isn't) then he's a kaafir - its as simple as that - different terminology to describe two different things. What the media is doing, with considerable help from people like Dr. Taj Hargey (and the comments of Faiz) is to give the impression that this word is in and of itself derogatory and implies inferiority. The term 'kaafir' conveys no more inferiority than its english equivalent, disbeliever. To give a simple example, the Pope is a kaafir with respect to Islam, and I am a kaafir with respect to Christianity.

btw. i'm sorry that i can't provide a link for Taj Hargey, because he's basically some unknown whose credentials are that he used to be a Professor of African History, and as regards his study of Islam... errr.. there isn't anything.

3) It seems as though even UKIM, a large-ish Muslim organisation headed up by indo-pak brothers has been lumped with the "extremist" Saudi-Wahhabis. So if they're also preaching hatred and intolerance, who are the Muslims who are practising the correct Islam? Ah, its Haras Rafiq of Sufi Muslim Council fame and his apparent team mate Abdul-Hakim Murad who frequently seems to be on hand to fuel the wahhabi-bashing.

Update: Link to a short interview with a B'ham newspaper in which Abu Usama talks about being taken out of context.

6 comments:

Tariq Nelson said...

On point #1, regardless of religion when one becomes extremely isolated they begin to think that characatures of "the other" reflect the reality. Whites who are around only whites tend to have more stereotypes of non-whites than those who know and mix with non-whites for example.

The same is the case with Muslims. We isolate ourselves to the point that we seem to think that every single person of another religion is out to get us or in on a conspiracy against Islam.

Richard H said...

"We isolate ourselves to the point that we seem to think that every single person of another religion is out to get us or in on a conspiracy against Islam."

You mean we Christians aren't the only ones that do that?

As one who sometimes speaks of "nonbelievers" in a Christian context, I've run into people who have told me I'm being insensitive. There are times and situations to be sensitive. There are also (probably alot more) for people to just get over it.

Yusuf Smith said...

As-Salaamu 'alaikum,

I don't think Abdul-Hakim Murad has anything to do with Haris Rafiq or Taj Hargey - it just so happened that they were all interviewed.

Kashif said...

Tariq, true. Probably applies to whats been happening in The Big Brother House this week :)

Agree with you too Richard.

Yusuf, thats somewhat reassuring. Though i disagree with AH Murad on a number of issues, lining up with Haras Rafiq would have been really pants!

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